On Monday's NBC Today, co-host Matt Lauer actually used the President's
own past statements about Republican vice presidential candidate Paul
Ryan to grill deputy Obama campaign manager Stephanie Cutter: "President
Obama said this of Paul Ryan, that he was 'absolutely sincere about
wanting to reduce the deficit'...gave him 'credit for at least being
willing to put out there some very tough choices.' Does he still feel
that way?" [Listen to the audio [1]]
Cutter attempted to rely on the usual Democratic fearmongering,
accusing Ryan of a plan "that balances the budget on the backs of the
middle class." Lauer called her out for that tactic, again citing
Obama's own words: "...he said this, quote, 'We're not going to
be able to do anything about these entitlements if what we do
characterize whatever proposal's are put out there as well, you know,
that's the other party being irresponsible...the other party trying to
hurt our senior citizens.' Which sounds exactly what – like what you
just said."
In response, Cutter doubled down on the line of attack her boss once
denounced: "Well, no, Matt, I disagree. It doesn't sound just like what I
just said. The facts are about Mr. Ryan's budget is that it really does
balance the budgets on the backs of the middle class and the needy."
Lauer rounded out his tough questioning by wondering: "Paul Ryan is a
seven-term congressman from that state. Every time he ran he won with I
think a majority of over 60%. Do you worry that he brings Wisconsin in
play and that he helps in other rust-belt states?"
Prior to Lauer's interview with Cutter, fellow co-host Savannah Guthrie
talked to Romney campaign senior advisor Kevin Madden and suggested the
pick of Ryan was a sign of Romney losing: "Governor Romney's been
getting a lot of credit for making a bold, game-changing choice here. It
strikes me that you don't make a choice like that if you think you are
winning the campaign. Is this a tacit acknowledgment the strategy Romney
had before, just running against the Obama economy, is not working?"
Guthrie went on to claim that "this pick of Congressman Ryan has
delighted both conservatives and liberals, and for one reason, because
of the Ryan budget." She also fretted: "The hallmark of Romney's
argument to be president is that he's a Washington outsider who has
primarily private sector expertise. In Congressman Ryan you have
somebody who has spent his entire life in Washington and has zero
private sector experience. How do you square that?"
Here is a full transcript of Lauer's August 13 exchange with Cutter:
7:10AM ET
MATT LAUER: Stephanie Cutter is President Obama's deputy campaign manager. Stephanie, good morning to you.
STEPHANIE CUTTER: Good morning.
LAUER: A couple of years ago, President Obama said this of Paul Ryan,
that he was "absolutely sincere about wanting to reduce the deficit." He
called Ryan's plan "a legitimate proposal" and added that he gave him
"credit for at least being willing to put out there some very tough
choices." Does he still feel that way?
CUTTER: Well, you know, you – the President said it last night. That he
knows Paul Ryan, he thinks Paul Ryan is a good and decent man, he
definitely has some very serious ideas. The President just fundamentally
disagrees with him. And you know, this pick, I heard the opening
talking about how this pick was a courageous and bold pick. It's not
courageous to put a Republican budget on the table that doesn't ask for
shared sacrifice. It's not courageous to put a Republican budget on the
table that balances the budget on the backs of the middle class and
doesn't ask anything from the very wealthy. You know, being courageous
means you have to buck your own party and Mr. Ryan has never done that.
LAUER:
Well when you say that, Stephanie, you know, President Obama addressed
Paul Ryan at a GOP retreat in 2010 and he said this, quote, "We're not
going to be able to do anything about these entitlements if what we do
characterize whatever proposal's are put out there as 'well, you know,
that's the other party being irresponsible...the other party trying to
hurt our senior citizens.'" Which sounds exactly what – like what you
just said.
CUTTER: Well, no, Matt, I disagree. It doesn't sound just like what I
just said. The facts are about Mr. Ryan's budget is that it really does
balance the budgets on the backs of the middle class and the needy. And
that's not a pro-growth policy. And don't take it from me. Take it from
independent economists who have studied this budget and said that if we
enacted the drastic cuts that Paul Ryan wants to put in place and Mitt
Romney wants to put in place, because this is his budget now, too, that
it would actually contract the economy. It could mean up to a million
jobs, that we would lose. So don't take it from me, take it from
independent economists, this is not a pro-growth document. This is an
ideological document.
LAUER: Let's talk about Wisconsin. It hasn't voted for a Republican
nominee since, I think, 1984. Paul Ryan is a seven-term congressman from
that state. Every time he ran he won with I think a majority of over
60%. Do you worry that he brings Wisconsin in play and that he helps in
other rust-belt states?
CUTTER: Well, I think we have to see how this plays out. We feel pretty
confident on our standing in Wisconsin. I think not just because of the
President's popularity but because of what the President believes in. I
think the people of Wisconsin, they do want to do something about
Medicare to ensure it's there for them and their children, but they
don't want to put policies in place that actually end – will mean the
beginning of the end of Medicare. They want to make sure that we can
keep costs down, not add costs to seniors. They want to make sure that
we can balance our budget in a way that's responsible, that protects the
investments that we need to grow, like education, like clean energy,
like innovation. All of these things that mean good jobs,
competitiveness, America, the economy coming back. And that's not what
the Ryan budget or the Romney budget does.
LAUER: Alright. We've got a lot of weeks to sort through this.
Stephanie Cutter, it's nice of you to spend time with us this morning, I
appreciate it.
CUTTER: Thank you for having me.