STEVE KROFT: Mr. President, was this the most satisfying week of your presidency?
PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA: Well, it was certainly one of the most
satisfying weeks, not only for my presidency, but I think for the United
States since I've been President. Obviously, bin Laden had been not
only a symbol of terrorism but a mass murderer who's- had eluded justice
for so long and so many families who have been affected, I think, had
given up hope. And for us to be able to definitively say we got the man
who caused thousands of deaths here in the United States was something
that I think all of us were profoundly grateful to be a part of.
KROFT: Was this- was the decision to launch this attack the most difficult decision that you've made as commander-in-chief?
OBAMA: Certainly one. You know, every time I send young men and women
into a war theater, that's a tough decision, and whenever you write a
letter to a family who's lost a loved one, it's sobering. This was a
very difficult decision in part because the evidence that we had was not
absolutely conclusive. This was circumstantial evidence that he was
going to be there. Obviously, it entailed enormous risk to the guys that
I sent in there. But, ultimately, I had so much confidence in the
capacity of our guys to carry out the mission that I felt that the risks
were outweighed by the potential benefit of us finally getting our man.
KROFT: When the CIA first brought this information to you, what was
your reaction? Was there a sense of excitement? Did this look promising
from the very beginning?
KROFT: When was that, when you set that plan in motion?
KROFT: How actively were you involved in that process?
KROFT: Were you surprised when they came to you with this compound
right in the middle of- sort of the military center of Pakistan?
KROFT: Do you believe it was built for him?
KROFT: Do you have any idea how long he was there?
KROFT: Did he move out of that compound?
KROFT: This was your decision, whether to proceed or not, and how to
proceed. What was the most difficult part of that decision?
KROFT: I mean, it's been reported that there was some resistance from
advisors and planners who disagreed with the commando raid approach. Was
it difficult for you to overcome that, and what level of confidence did
you have?
KROFT: How much did some of the past failures, like the Iran hostage rescue attempt, how did that weigh on you? I mean-
OBAMA: I thought about that.
KROFT: Was that a factor?
KROFT: It sounds like you made a decision that you could accept
failure. You didn't want failure but after looking at the 55/45 thing
that you mentioned, you must have at some point concluded that the
advantages outweighed the risks.
KROFT: How much of it was gut instinct? Did you have personal feelings about whether he was there?
OBAMA: The thing about gut instinct is if it works, then you think,
boy, I had good instincts. (laughs) If it doesn't, then you're gonna be
running back in your mind all the things that told you maybe you
shouldn't have done it. Obviously, I had enough of an instinct that we
could be right, that it was worth doing.
KROFT: After you made the decision to go ahead, you had, like, this
incredible weekend where you were you surveyed the tornado damage in
Alabama. You took your family to the shuttle launch and met with people
down there, with [Representative] Gabby Giffords. You attended the White
House [Correspondents'] Association dinner. There was a commencement
address. And this was all going on. I mean, you knew what was gonna
happen.
OBAMA: Yeah, yeah. The decision was made. I made the decision Thursday
night, informed my team Friday morning, and then we flew off to look at
the tornado damage, to go to Cape Canaveral, to make a speech, a
commencement speech. And then, we had the White House Correspondents'
Dinner on Saturday night. So, this was in the back of my mind all
weekend.
KROFT: Just the back?
OBAMA: Middle, front-
KROFT: Was it hard keeping your focus?
OBAMA: Yes- yeah.
KROFT: Did you have to suppress the urge to tell someone? Did you wanna
tell somebody? Did you wanna tell Michelle? Did you tell Michelle?
KROFT: I want to go to the Situation Room. What was the mood?
OBAMA: Tense.
KROFT: People talking?
KROFT: Were you nervous?
KROFT: What could you see?
KROFT: Right, and that went on for a long time? Could you hear gunfire?
KROFT: So it got off to a bad start?
KROFT: There was a backup plan?
KROFT: You had to blow up some walls?
KROFT: When was the first indication you got- that you had found the right place, that bin Laden was in there?
KROFT: What was your reaction when you heard those words?
KROFT: When did you start to feel comfortable that bin Laden had been killed?
KROFT: Did you see the pictures?
KROFT: What was your reaction when you saw them?
KROFT: Why haven't you released them?
KROFT: There are people in Pakistan, for example, who say, look, this
is all a lie. This is another American trick. Osama's not dead.
KROFT: Was it your decision to bury him at sea?
KROFT: When the mission was over and you walked out of the Situation Room, what did you do? What was the first thing you did?
KROFT: When you announced that bin Laden had been killed last Sunday,
you said, 'Our counterterrorism cooperation with Pakistan helped lead us
to bin Laden and the compound where he was hiding.' Can you be more
specific on that, and how much help did Pakistan actually provide in
getting rid of bin Laden?
KROFT: You didn't tell anybody in the Pakistani government or the military.
OBAMA: No.
KROFT: Or their intelligence community?
OBAMA: No.
KROFT: Because you didn't trust?
OBAMA: As I said, I didn't tell most people here in the White House. I
didn't tell my own family. It was that important for us to maintain
operational security.
KROFT: But you were carrying out this operation in Pakistan.
OBAMA: Yeah.
KROFT: You didn't trust them?
KROFT: Right now, the location of this house, the location of the
compound just raises all sorts of questions. Do you believe people in
the Pakistani government? Pakistani intelligence agencies knew that bin
Laden was living there?
KROFT: Do you have any sense of what they found there?
KROFT: Is this the first time that you've ever ordered someone killed?
KROFT: This was one man. This is somebody who's cast a shadow in this place, in the White House for almost a decade.
